Pakistanis have promised America Jihad for killing bin Laden

Good point,

Because stopping aid to these knuckle dragging losers would cause a lot of them to die.

Let that @!$%#hole pakistan become the bastion of terrorism, as if it isnt already.

That way all the pieces of @!$%# are right where our drones can find them.

Apes in drapes discussing faces and places they've never been- wow, what a seed.

USA provincialism runs deep even at the liberal 'vine.

Let that @!$%#hole pakistan become the bastion of terrorism, as if it isnt already.

It is-- and has been for years. Nothing new about that.

"Tired of islamic @!$%#" runs deep too...

Imagine that.

Apes in drapes discussing faces and places they've never been- wow, what a seed.

And libs in bibs once again taking side with those who want to see our destruction.

Libs in bibs. Haha.

wtf are you on this page for go drown yourself

wtf are you on this page for go drown yourself

WTF is anyone on this page for-- go eat some delicious grapes!

Yes that is a WONDERFUL idea, Nuke pakistahn resulting in fallout in India and China almost immediately, then we all suffer later as the radioactive cloud surrounds the earth......wonderful, just wonderfully brilliant. /s

You realize Pakistan has a Nuclear arsenal, as does China and India, you are assuming India won't care we Nuked so close to them killing their innocents by the millions, and China will not defend an Ally or retaliate for their fallout. What about Russia? they still have the largest Nuke arsenal in the world. How would they react? It's just not as easy as dropping bombs on stuff and watching them go BOOM

you don't know anything about nukes

We don't have warheads that rain the fallout straight back down on the target. Your suggestion that we use nukes is insane.

quartierleblanc

Is that the best you have?

Please elaborate , no need for silly comments, how exactly do you know, what I do or do not know about? This is actually a subject I am fairly comfortable with , you may learn something.

quartierleblanc:Since YOU'RE the expert on nukes would you please care to share with us HOW we can nuke Pakistan without starting WW3 and with limited fallout and damage to those outside of the targeted areas.

Change the yield to either mainly high entegy neutrons or plasma energy. The former has already been done effectively and the weapon can be quite small.

That's really not the point. The idea of killing entire populations to root out the ones that are terrorists is profoundly @!$%#ed up.

They asked about the warheads and I told them how. The physics packages for high energy neutron weapons exist in present form and was deployed during the end of the Cold War and the USAF had a three stage fusion gravity bomb with a high plasma yield in the 60's that B52's could carry. This is not a big secret.

So instead of blasting folks to smithereens,you advocate killing them with high dosages of radiation. Lovely.

They have absolutely no problem killing you by whatever means whatsover.

Our military are not terrorists.

No, they're killers. It's what the military does. They break things and kill enemies of the state. Here's a newsflash. Most muslims hate your guts and want you dead. Deal with it.

Right now I personally know about 20-25 Muslims,none of whom have expressed hated for me,nor have they tried to kill me.Most of these folks,by the way live in my neighborhood,so they would have ample opportunity to do whatever.

You're a fool. Give them time.

No, they're killers.

They don't indiscriminately kill civilians in order to get the bad guys. Those are terrorist tactics and anyone who would suggest doing that would be advocating terrorism.

It will soon be a matter of survival. Any country, especially a Muslim country should know that a mass murder attack will be met with extreme force if they are responsible. PERIOD.

When the government of another country has been directly implicated in a terrorist attack against us, we have reacted appropriately. It takes a diseased mind to advocate the mass murder of civilians as being an appropriate response.

Wow, quatier is just as bad as they are. Only a sick individual would think mass murder is an appropriate response to an act of terrorism. It takes an even sicker mind to advocate the use of nuclear weapons to destroy a nation and cause extensive damage to neighboring countries who had nothing to do with it.

What is appropriate? When it comes to survival what is appropriate? Please let us know.

It takes an even sicker mind to advocate the use of nuclear weapons t

Using nukes is usually a pretty bad idea! (Just my own opinion, of course :-)

It worked pretty well the last two times they were used.

"You're a fool" Ever heard of the Newsvine COH. I suggest you review it.

quartierleblanc

the last "two" you refer to where dropped in a AGE where we where the sole NUCLEAR POWER. Using nukes now WILL result in retaliation with NUKES, what are you not comprehending here? If we nuke they nuke, who wins?

Also it didn't work out well the US still pays reparations to JAPAN for those WAR CRIMES. Countless Japanese today still have health issues because of those bombs, and fallout did spread, it would have been worse if Japan wasn't a Island nation,

What a load of crap. The US doesn't pay a nickel to Japan for war reparations. War crimes? Not even a good lie. Where did you get that BS from? And just who is going to retialiate? The Russians are the only ones with a substantial arsenal and they don't even know if what the have will work. The French? I'm on the floor laughing at that one. The Brits? LMFAO again. The Chinese? Not enough range and not nearly enough warheads on 1960's technology missiles. The Indians would be partying in the streets. The Paki's don't have a delivery system to reach us and their arsenal would be gone in the first 30 minutes.

Not a delivery system but a religious concept. Assembly here has its price. They have predominately fission weapons and that is a whole problem in and of itself. They don't have something like the SADM's that the US or to a lesser degree the Soviet's had.

Laughable retailation.

Mutilation of Japanese war dead

Main article: American mutilation of Japanese war dead

A U.S. sailor with a Japanese skull on board USS PT-341

Some Allied soldiers collected Japanese body parts. The incidence of this by American personnel occurred on "a scale large enough to concern the Allied military authorities throughout the conflict and was widely reported and commented on in the American and Japanese wartime press."^[69]

The collection of Japanese body parts began quite early in the war, prompting a September 1942 order for disciplinary action against such souvenir taking.^[70] Harrison concludes that, since this was the first real opportunity to take such items (the Battle of Guadalcanal), "[c]learly, the collection of body parts on a scale large enough to concern the military authorities had started as soon as the first living or dead Japanese bodies were encountered."^[70]

When Japanese remains were repatriated from the Mariana Islands after the war, roughly 60 percent were missing their skulls.^[71]

In a memorandum dated June 13, 1944, the U.S. Army Judge Advocate General (JAG) asserted that "such atrocious and brutal policies," in addition to being repugnant, were violations of the laws of war, and recommended the distribution to all commanders of a directive pointing out that "the maltreatment of enemy war dead was a blatant violation of the 1929 Geneva Convention on the sick and wounded, which provided that: After every engagement, the belligerent who remains in possession of the field shall take measures to search for wounded and the dead and to protect them from robbery and ill treatment."

These practises were in addition also in violation of the unwritten customary rules of land warfare and could lead to the death penalty.^[72] The U.S. Navy JAG mirrored that opinion one week later, and also added that "the atrocious conduct of which some US personnel were guilty could lead to retaliation by the Japanese which would be justified under international law".^[72]

[edit] Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki

Main article: Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki

In 1963, the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the subject of a judicial review in Ryuichi Shimoda et al. v. The State.^[73] The District Court of Tokyo declined to rule on the legality of nuclear weapons in general, but found that "the attacks upon Hiroshima and Nagasaki caused such severe and indiscriminate suffering that they did violate the most basic legal principles governing the conduct of war."^[74] Francisco Gómez points out in an article published in the International Review of the Red Cross that, with respect to the "anti-city" or "blitz" strategy, that "in examining these events in the light of international humanitarian law, it should be borne in mind that during the Second World War there was no agreement, treaty, convention or any other instrument governing the protection of the civilian population or civilian property."^[75] The possibility that attacks like the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings could be considered war crimes is one of the reasons given by John R. Bolton for the United States not agreeing to be bound by the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court^[76] while he was Undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security, although they would not be prosecutable due to their having occurred prior to the ratification the treaty.

My bad on stating we paid reparations, that was incorrect i was thinking about something else, it no less diminishes my other very valid points.

You are clearly not up to date on current Nuclear capabilities of our Neighbors. Can you guarantee China who own's our debt hasn't made better missles by now? Heck they have stealth fighters now that match ours, they are not the same China armed with 1960s weapons that was decades ago when they still had embargos slammed on them and no one would trade. Pakistan has Soviet technology, again it would be naive to believe none of them could reach us when the soviets could easily build them to do so.

Your very same reasoning to nuke away, is going to be the same reasoning they use when they get ahold of a nuke. Hate begets Hate, death begets death. No human just rolls over there is consequences for all. We all bleed , laugh and cry the same, we forget we are all human even though our ideologies

Wrong, The US fighter is operational and has been for years. The Chinese aircraft if it exists at all is at best prototype stage. The Chinese have less than 40 non MIRV'ed ICBM's and a single boomer that is not operational with non-operational SLBM's.

And BTW the winners make the rules after a war and we won. The Japanese brought their own hell down on themselves. WE determine who was the war criminal, not the losers.

On the other hand..it seems the command structure did make an effort to end a number of actions they felt were not in keeping with American Values.

But the Japanese calling anyone a war criminal is laughable. Only a liberal fool would think such a thing.

You can keep discussions civil without degrading to insults, as a matter of fact here on the vine you have to as per CoH. Let's keep it clean no need to resort to insult throws unless your points are faltering. According to the Geneva Convention and todays war crime standards, any side can commit war crimes, just because you won doesn't give you a right to be evil to the losers, by todays standards we did in fact commit war crimes by using weapons of mass destruction to completely destroy TWO CIVILIAN cities. Spin it all you like we may not have been convicted of war crimes for WW2 , but we did in fact commit them

Sorry the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not war crimes except in your mind and the minds of the losers. Anything else is liberal pap. Typical. People like you would have us get into a ring and sing kumbaya while they kill us. ENOUGH

The Paki's don't have a delivery system to reach us

Suitcase nukes?

Laughable retailation.

Did you find this to be "laughable retaliation" as well?

High tech and you need a two stage fusion weapon. Plus you need two or three really heavy suitcases. You're talking Hollywood BS here. They don't have that. Fission weapons have limited yield and are big.

So I'm SO sure you're heading to your nearest military recruiter's office RIGHT NOW.

Liby2k

I know, right? All we do is go over there, over there- forget over there.

Bring it here, bitches! To the streets of New York- blammo, blammo rat-a-tat-tat

To the shores of Orange county- incoming! BOOM!

Yeah, cool man.

s/

Been there done that, chitownty. But absolutely they have to attack us first for us to justify a war. Otherwise we can just keep attacking anyone we feel like it; we will just make up a reason. WMDs, freedom fighters fighting oppression, invited in, etc...

Glad you clarified that.

Demmywemmy, .........

LOL. Not exactly my point (I was being kinda sarcastic). But what you said.....LOL.

Where would you drop this bomb ?

Perhaps it is high time that the christian world starts impose non interference on their affairs. That any country who would express sympathy on the destruction of a christian nation will get their fair share before they can act on it.

Where to drop the bomb? The place where the present demonstration is taking place and please include the headquarters of the Pakistani Intelligence.

America cannot attack Packistan. This is because China has officially warned the American government that an attack on Pakistan would be construed as an attack on China. How much you want to bet that Pakistan gave the Chinese military a good look at that secret helecopter that was scuttled during the Bin Ladin Raid before they gave it back to us.

Edit: I posted this message before I saw Water Hole's post further down about roughly the same thing.

Not an option!

It's a great option.

Once a few more of these Bronze Age theocracy's in the Middle East have nukes they're solve the problem on their own.

I'm also glad you're not in charge over here, because long before we'd eliminated the Pakistanis and Saudis we'd have the Turks and the Indonesians out to exterminate us in return -- and long before we'd eliminated the Turks and Indonesians the Chinese and Russians and Indians and probably even the Germans and French would have their nukes locked and loaded.

And did you already forget that taking out one single third-world country nearly bankrupted us?

Yeah. I'm really glad you're not in charge.

What really blows my mind about this jihad is that they seem to be blowing up and killing off each other

That's why we should just leave them alone. DAMN that Bush.

Umm Problem there is they have their own nukes :-(

They'll eventually shoot themselves.

I think they will shoot us look at who they are protesting ? Who were they keeping protected ?

Water Hole, why do you have your articles or seeds splattered all over South America section? How come you are allowed to do this? It is very irritating but i suppose you realise this. you are not contributing anything to the subject people are looking to.

Water Hole, you know fine what you are doing, it is a bit rude, have some respect.

Ok just don't do it again